Marek Tucan Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 From the commentary it seems the ejection was successful...
shep854 Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 (edited) From the commentary it seems the ejection was successful......hopefully the rescue was as well. There have been a number of aircrew who have gotten tangled in their 'chutes and drowned. It's an occupational hazard of carrier ops. Edited July 21, 2007 by shep854
Tinopener Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 ...hopefully the rescue was as well. There have been a number of aircrew who have gotten tangled in their 'chutes and drowned. It's an occupational hazard of carrier ops. Getting run over by an aircraft carrier can take the shine off your day too.
shep854 Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Getting run over by an aircraft carrier can take the shine off your day too. Ouch. At least the pilot in the video went off to the side. Of course, there are still the screws to consider. When I was in college, I read Approach, the NAVAIR safety magazine. There were a number of "I was there" articles by crew who went into the water in front of the carrier. I don't think it was the thrill they signed up for... IIRC, the procedure for the carrier was a hard turn away from the crash site and ring ALL STOP to coast past the crew. Gawking was optional.
Scott Cunningham Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Fairly standard snapped cable sequence. Looks like the pilot had a good chance of surviving. Shame to see a beautiful aircraft lost like that. A lot of times the carrier will have its rescue chopper hovering off the port stern quarter just in case this happens. They will be on top of the pilot with a swimmer in the water before the pilot even has a chance to get out of the chute. On the second plane that boltered what was it that hit the ocean after it got airborne again?
Tinopener Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Fairly standard snapped cable sequence. Looks like the pilot had a good chance of surviving. Shame to see a beautiful aircraft lost like that. A lot of times the carrier will have its rescue chopper hovering off the port stern quarter just in case this happens. They will be on top of the pilot with a swimmer in the water before the pilot even has a chance to get out of the chute. On the second plane that boltered what was it that hit the ocean after it got airborne again? Possibly the wire launch strop connecting the nose leg to the catapault shuttle?
T-44 Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Possibly the wire launch strop connecting the nose leg to the catapault shuttle? I thought the Kusnetsov wasn't equipped with catapult? Strange though it doesn't use the ramp at the front... Maybe a landing approach that overshot?
Tinopener Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 I thought the Kusnetsov wasn't equipped with catapult? Strange though it doesn't use the ramp at the front... Maybe a landing approach that overshot? Apologies. My knowledge of this area is almost zero... no, actually it is zero. I was just guessing. Baaad Tinopener
shep854 Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 I thought the Kusnetsov wasn't equipped with catapult? Strange though it doesn't use the ramp at the front... Maybe a landing approach that overshot? Given the quality of the video, what I assume happened, is that the arresting cable snapped just as the jet was slowed too much to "bolter" or take back off, so it just rolled off the deck. It has also happened to USN aircraft. "Cold cat" launches, where the catapult doesn't provide enough thrust to accelerate the plane to flying speed, is one of the other nightmares of carrier ops. Watch enough of these, and it's easy to understand why conventional carrier ops are more stressful than actual combat.
Garth Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 On the second plane that boltered what was it that hit the ocean after it got airborne again? Broken off tailhook, maybe? Do the Russians have barricades on their CVs? Also noticed that from the date/timestamp the second missed arrest happened 35 minutes after the first one. --Garth
Sardaukar Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) Well..what I know, the standard carrier landing procedure is to go on full power once you hit the deck in case hook does not grab or cable breaks. In this case I think cable slowed his plane down so much that he couldn't get airborne again. Edited July 24, 2007 by Sardaukar
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