Strela-2M market value?

[Marek Tucan]

US Govt just offered my country USD 12 Million for destroying 1,200 Strela-2M missiles and 600 launchers.

 

What I'm (ut of interest) asking is, what is the market value of the missiles and launchers? Does sb got any clue?

[Bluelight]

US Govt just offered my country USD 12 Million for destroying 1,200 Strela-2M missiles and 600 launchers.

 

What I'm (ut of interest) asking is, what is the market value of the missiles and launchers? Does sb got any clue?

 

http://cas.bellarmine.edu/tietjen/Fun%20St...ela_surface.htm

 

*ebay joke

 

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I was not able to find an answer to your question. The DoD purchases stinger missiles with a low production multi-year contract for $26,000 USD per. (while not classified, I cannot cite this). Consider that the Javelin also goes for just over 20,000 apiece also (if your force me to, I might be able to cite BBC). I would personally consider both the Stinger & Javelin to be considerably more valuable then your Strela's.

 

I would argue that the actual value of a strela to a legit military force would be less then what you would get for destroying them.

[Marek Tucan]

I would argue that the actual value of a strela to a legit military force would be less then what you would get for destroying them.

 

I would guess so as well, just wondering how good bargain the offer is

 

I'd say the deal would turn out VERY profitably (and safe) if we didn't bother with the ecological disassembling of the missiles and just let ur soldiers have a shot with them in some training area

[Sardaukar]

Quite bloated value for Strela 2M...well..with 600 launchers it's reasonable. One of the newer version I got to shoot live against "drone" was valued to about 300 000 USD a pop.

 

One has to understand that launcher is way more valuable than missile itself.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Sardaukar

[Sardaukar]

To also add, Strela 2M is *way* past it's "best before" time nowadays, both production and storage-wise. That usually creates big problems with reliability. Generator that makes electricity from rocket motor burn for missile goes first. That part of missile goes bad first in storage and is cause of 95 % of malfunctions. No electricity, no guidance...ballistic trajectory. Trust me, been there, seen that..since I had to investigate the misfires/malfunctions

Edited July 21, 2007 by Sardaukar

[Marek Tucan]

There's no doubt the US DoD is doing us a favor with this offer given how money-and time-consuming the proper disbanding of old ammo is and that we'd have to do so sooner or later anyway...

 

Am looking for our servicemen's references about the RBS-70 system we bought to replace Strelas. Have to say I personally like the concept, though it might be good to purchase also something lighter to fill the empty racks in BVP's

[Sardaukar]

It is bit bad for smaller armies that about only countries producing viable MANPADS (export-wise) are USA and Russia...and former is even steering away from that.

Edited July 21, 2007 by Sardaukar

[Marek Tucan]

For us good solution might be Polish Grom missile But nothing in the pipeline in the foreseeable future AFAIK. Well, maybe our govt can try to squeeze something out of uncle SAM and the NMD radar deal

[A2Keltainen]

It is bit bad for smaller armies that about only countries producing viable MANPADS (export-wise) are USA and Russia...and former is even steering away from that.

 

How about France? They have Mistral now, and given how the French are regarding weapons, I would be surprised if they didn't design a new version of it, or a completly new MANPAD system, when the current versions are nearing their useful end of life. Then we have the Asian countries, such as China and South Korea which both are producing MANPAD systems now. All the mentioned countries should be viable exporters for many countries interested in MANPADs. For example, I can't see any problems with our beloved FDF buying MANPADs from any of them, as long as the quality and price is right.

[Sardaukar]

How about France? They have Mistral now, and given how the French are regarding weapons, I would be surprised if they didn't design a new version of it, or a completly new MANPAD system, when the current versions are nearing their useful end of life. Then we have the Asian countries, such as China and South Korea which both are producing MANPAD systems now. All the mentioned countries should be viable exporters for many countries interested in MANPADs. For example, I can't see any problems with our beloved FDF buying MANPADs from any of them, as long as the quality and price is right.

 

Problem is that Mistral is not MANPADS. And China/SK are not viable and reliable exporters. About only systems available are up one notch, "crew weapons"..needing 2-3 guys to set up and operate (like MISTRAL or RBS-70 derivatives).

[A2Keltainen]

Problem is that Mistral is not MANPADS. ... About only systems available are up one notch, "crew weapons"..needing 2-3 guys to set up and operate (like MISTRAL or RBS-70 derivatives).

 

My impression is that the common use of the term MANPADS includes Mistral and Rbs-70, and nothing in the term man portable says it has to be man portable by a single man. Some other examples of large and/or heavy man portable weapons are Rbs-17, Spike LR, 95 S 58-61 (yes, I've carried it), and 81 mm mortars. Remember that we're talking about military matters, so it doesn't have to be fun to carry it to make it man portable, to put it in mild and diplomatic words.

 

And China/SK are not viable and reliable exporters.

 

Why?

[atst]

US Govt just offered my country USD 12 Million for destroying 1,200 Strela-2M missiles and 600 launchers.

 

What I'm (ut of interest) asking is, what is the market value of the missiles and launchers? Does sb got any clue?

 

So that's 10000$ per missile. Hmm, I see a new business for russian defense industry. Producing Strela-2M again and getting payed by US-Government for destroying them immedaitly after delivery. I bet they can produce it below 5000$ and receive 50% margin.

Edited July 21, 2007 by atst

[Scott Cunningham]

Its a good deal for worn out old missiles, especially considering the cost of one downed airliner if a Strela gets in the hands of some islamic lunatic.

[Gorka L. Martinez-Mezo]

How about France? They have Mistral now, and given how the French are regarding weapons, I would be surprised if they didn't design a new version of it, or a completly new MANPAD system, when the current versions are nearing their useful end of life.

 

Mistral 2 has been in production for a number of years. It`s quite an improvement over the original Mistral developed in the 80s

[bd1]

Are the shoulder-launched MANPADS ´´restricted´´ equipment ? US buying old Czech Strelas , Lithuania bought Humvee-mounted Stingers (not Avenger , simply post-mounted) , Estonia buying vehicle-mounted Mistral , Latvia RBS-70 (?)- are the shoulder-mounted SAMS considered security risk nowadays ?

Edited July 24, 2007 by bd1

[Gregory]

The question is not simply the price these Strelas would command on an open market, but also how much would the Czechs have to pay to replace them.

[Marek Tucan]

Update, I should have thought the first reports were off The amount is indeed 12 million, but it shrank from USD to CZK

 

As for the replacement, short-range man-portable SAM's have already been replaced by RBS-70 system.

[harryRIEDL]

dose Starstreak count as a proper MANPAD ?