larrikin Posted September 6, 2005 Posted September 6, 2005 I keep telling people that the USS W.J. Clinton should be a comfort/party ship for US personnel serving in 3rd world hell holes.
FlyingCanOpener Posted September 6, 2005 Posted September 6, 2005 Nice one, if not quite in the same line. They'd have to understand some Spanish to get it, though.217880[/snapback] Not really, just a good grasp of history... St. James and Strike for Spain! or something like that...
Grant Whitley Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 Not really, just a good grasp of history... St. James and Strike for Spain! or something like that... 218199[/snapback] Yeah. Can states have warships? Have her sail under Alabama's colors to complete the effect. http://www.flags-co.com/Images/state_alabama_large.gif http://www.himnonacional.org/ban_cruz.gif
FlyingCanOpener Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 (edited) Yeah. Can states have warships? Have her sail under Alabama's colors to complete the effect.http://www.flags-co.com/Images/state_alabama_large.gif http://www.himnonacional.org/ban_cruz.gif218260[/snapback] Yes, states can, and have been given to capital ships in the past, though SSBNs are the recipients at the moment... http://www.alabama.navy.mil/ Edited September 7, 2005 by FlyingCanOpener
Grant Whitley Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 I know- the Wisconsin and the North Carolina are both within a few hours' drive of my house.
FlyingCanOpener Posted September 7, 2005 Posted September 7, 2005 I know- the Wisconsin and the North Carolina are both within a few hours' drive of my house.218298[/snapback] Don't know if they fly the state flags, but I know the Louisiana's Blue Crew used to fly the state flag when returning to port from a successful cruise...
Scott Cunningham Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Brit ships always had great names. The Grand Fleet at Jutland had some really decent ship names. The US ship naming policy is in complete turmoil. It is a crap shoot, with no policy or standard. We have a sub named Seawolf, as well as one named Jimmy Carter, and both are in the same class. We have carriers named Enterprise, after famous places (Kitty Hawk), old ships (Constellation), presidents (Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and even some named after people I don't know (Stennis and Vinson). We had Forrestal (a politician) Ranger (old ship name), Independence, and Saratoga (famous Carrier).
pluto77189 Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 I guess the British have monopolized all the good names for a reason - they spoke English first. Natrually, they've had dibs. Although Splendid just makes me laugh... Cowboy is a good one. We're just so strangled by political correctness now, cool names woudl be considered "bad" by too many politicians. Seawolf - sounds really cool. Jimmy Carter? Ooooh the evil dictators are quaking in their boots... I pray to God we don't end up giving naming rights to the highest bidder: "The Verizon Wireless DeathBringer battlegroup has moved into the Sea of Japan...."
Christian Lupine Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 How about the USS J. Robert Oppenheimer?
rmgill Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Hmmm Chippewa? An old ship of the line? Haven't seen that one in a while. There is some convention. Boomers are named for States just like Battleships were in the days of yore. Attack subs are named for big cities just like cruisers were in the old days. Amphibious ships get sea landing battles or names of people. Cruisers today get named after battles. DDs are named for people. There's got to be a good name on DANFS that could stand to be recycled. Here's the list of all current and past carriers. WTF, we never named a carrier after Teddy? Just his younger nephew? Ok, my vote is for a Theodore Roosevelt. Though, in deference to Teddy, it should be a gun ship given his penchant for firepower AND taking shots.
rmgill Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 Seawolf - sounds really cool. Jimmy Carter? Ooooh the evil dictators are quaking in their boots...224315[/snapback] You realize, it's a special operations submarine, right?
Bob B Posted September 19, 2005 Posted September 19, 2005 (edited) .org/danfs/carriers/]Here's[/url] ....WTF, we never named a carrier after Teddy? Just his younger nephew? Ok, my vote is for a Theodore Roosevelt. Though, in deference to Teddy, it should be a gun ship given his penchant for firepower AND taking shots.224402[/snapback] Teddy Is Ready, CVN71: http://www.tr.surfor.navy.mil/default.aspx Edited September 19, 2005 by Bob B
Ol Paint Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 (edited) Actually the SSN-21 class naming "convention" is worse than you guys are making it out to be. SSN-21 is named after previous ships (Seawolf), SSN-22 is named after a state (Connecticut) and SSN-23 is named after the former president (Jimmy Carter). And it isn't a one-class aberration, either, since the SSN-774 class boats are named after states (Virginia & Texas so far). [Edit: And don't forget that, while most of the Ohio-class SSBNs are named after states, there is the Henry M Jackson, SSBN-730.] Douglas Edited September 20, 2005 by Ol Paint
pluto77189 Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 You realize, it's a special operations submarine, right?224403[/snapback] Only if you realized I was joking... Which is good because nobody will EVER have to hear the phrase "The U.S.S. Jimmy Carter Battlegroup..." I don't suspect we'll hear about the Jimmy Carter very much. I wonder if that played a part in the Navy naming the sub after him (besides they obvious fact of him being a submariner).
Jeff Posted September 20, 2005 Posted September 20, 2005 the SSN-774 class boats are named after states (Virginia & Texas so far). 224691[/snapback] The next two are the Hawaii(EB) and the North Carolina(NN).
Corinthian Posted September 21, 2005 Posted September 21, 2005 Imagine... CVN-78 Clinton... And if the JSF contract went to Boeing's design some derisively call "Monica"....
gnocci Posted September 21, 2005 Posted September 21, 2005 (edited) We had a minesweeper "ROU Valiente" ("Brave") that got on the way of a cargo ship and is now on the bottom of the sea in two pieces. Edited September 21, 2005 by gnocci
p620346 Posted September 21, 2005 Posted September 21, 2005 "And if the JSF contract went to Boeing's design some derisively call "Monica" The 20 August 1988 cruise missile attacks on Islamic terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and an asprin factory in the Sudan are commonly referred to as "Operation MONICA" and compared to the movie Wag the Dog. (\__/)(O.o )(> < ) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination!
kaikaun Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 USS Peacemaker should satisfy both sides of the political spectrum. USS Abraham (after Lincoln of course) would annoy Arabs (and probably strict Jews).
pikachu Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 (edited) USS Peacemaker should satisfy both sides of the political spectrum. USS Abraham (after Lincoln of course) would annoy Arabs (and probably strict Jews).225642[/snapback] Why? Arabs also trace their roots to Abraham. In any case, we already have a Lincoln (CVN 72). How about USS Rodger Young? Edited September 22, 2005 by pikachu
Jim Martin Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 USS Abraham Lincoln http://www.cvn72.navy.mil/ USS Peacemaker should satisfy both sides of the political spectrum. USS Abraham (after Lincoln of course) would annoy Arabs (and probably strict Jews).225642[/snapback]
Richard Lindquist Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 Brit ships always had great names. The Grand Fleet at Jutland had some really decent ship names. The US ship naming policy is in complete turmoil. It is a crap shoot, with no policy or standard. We have a sub named Seawolf, as well as one named Jimmy Carter, and both are in the same class. We have carriers named Enterprise, after famous places (Kitty Hawk), old ships (Constellation), presidents (Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and even some named after people I don't know (Stennis and Vinson). We had Forrestal (a politician) Ranger (old ship name), Independence, and Saratoga (famous Carrier).224280[/snapback] Enterpise and Independence were fromer ship's names. Carriers were named after famous old ships (Ranger, Enterprise, Constellation) and battles (Lexington, Yorktown, Cowpens) until the Franklin D. Roosevelt right after his death. Since then, more and more carriers have been named after politicians.
Richard Lindquist Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 In 1805, BTW, a previous Dreadnought was the most powerful ship at Trafalgar, so it was keeping with tradition to name the first 'all-big-gun battleship' Dreadnought.217832[/snapback] Not correct at all. Dreadnought was a 98 gun second rater, thought she was one of the largest second-rate ships. First raters were larger and more powerful. Victory and Royal Sovereign were first raters at Trafalgar and were larger and more powerful than Dreadnought.
swerve Posted September 22, 2005 Posted September 22, 2005 Enterpise and Independence were fromer ship's names. Carriers were named after famous old ships (Ranger, Enterprise, Constellation) and battles (Lexington, Yorktown, Cowpens) until the Franklin D. Roosevelt right after his death. Since then, more and more carriers have been named after politicians. A bad idea, IMO, especially when the politicians are still alive. No warship should ever be named after a living person.
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