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https://twitter.com/Capt_Navy/status/1587112309524144130?s=20&t=69o8Y23vozYVX12AJNwggwTom Clancy, the man who predicted XXI warfare almost to the point, true visionary. The people who criticize him should hide at this point.

Not the same, I think, the Ukrainians were outnumbered in kit and equipment.

Well, gentlemen, I have been a long time absent and a few things have happened since then. When I left TN, there were no pandemics or WW3 tributaries. I have to express my utter shock at how the war is going. Just in this forum, we spent years debating about how a WW3 in Europe would have been, hours and hours arguing about the armor thickness of T-64s, the M-60A3 TTS, and all those debates about how the great Warsaw Pact great dogfighters would fare against NATO missile interceptors, and boy, were all those debates missed the mark. The WP had zero chance to accomplish their rush to the channel, not even close. Before Feb 24, I thought the invasion would not happen because my takeaway from years of hypothetical argumentation was that Russia would loose its army even if it achieved her goals. My God, was that off base too. I am, like most, at a loss of words about how badly this war is going for Russia. There are three main reasons for my dismay, first is the fact that air superiority is something that is simply beyond the abilities of the VKS, second is the manpower crisis now affecting the Russian army, third is the tenacity and bravery of the Ukrainians. When I was younger I argued the battle of Grozny was the absolute representation of russian military power. Pro-russians would take this as an offense. Years of reforms, they argued, have transformed the Russian military into a modern military forces, and that the chances of that debacle repeating were none. My god was everyone wrong. It happened again but on steroids. I literally had to check like five times every source I had to verify what had happened in places like Hostomel and Kharkov (yeah, ww2 buff, hard habit to kick). But the most shocking thing of all is that Putin thought they would surrender. The people that fought him for years, he completely ignored, disregarded and understamitade them, the superspy, the former head of the KGB made the biggest mistake in the history of modern military intelligence. Like, WTF bro? Russia is buying North Korean ammo and Iranian drones, what a shitshow.

Is "Syriatification" even a word?

Isn't conflict between mostly "white" upper and middle class and mostly indigenous lower class one of the driving forces of all VZ mess? Isn't conflict between mostly "white" upper and middle class and mostly indigenous lower class one of the driving forces of all VZ mess? No, Venezuela is a mestizo country, first world (European) identity politics need not apply.

LMAO I know I have been out of the game for a long time, but this is my reaction to Russiagate libfiasco. You guys actually believed Russia hacked the electoral college with the help of Drumpf. I mean, we didn't like Obama, but we were never retarded about it. There will be zero consequences from this for the dems, but man are they stupid.

NO COLLUSION!

Yeah, had to edit. Wrong thread. Still here, survived the blackout, seems the only way out is full on regime change backed by the CIA, which is glorious news indeed. Two short points: -I think on 23F the US severely underestimated how far and fanatical the socialistic indoctrination has been in Venezuela, to the point they never expected a Venezuelan Frigate threatening to sink a ship crewed by US citizens. Seems the options now are more Tomahawkit in nature and less, diplomatic, given that Bolsonaro was at the CIA, and then met with Trump, after the Venezuelan military tear gassed the Venezuelan Brazilian Border. -The intervention will not involve a Pinochet like character to clean house, at best we are looking at someone getting puppeted as the CIA and DEA arm their cleansing squads. Venezuelan sovereignty is now over, it has been since 2004, now the US has come clear about it. Trump could still back out from this and its Maduro forever, in the military sense, but in political terms, the US is here to stay until the Monroe doctrine is taught in Venezuelan elementary schools, IMHO.

We should get more, considering all the gold we are sending you guyz.

Personally, don't like him. He was of the group that toppled General Perez Jimenez. He is right about amnesty and Maduro, though. Though I don´t think he will take it. He will go down like Blondi in the Bunker, shot by his master, some Cuban I guess.

They are full of shit. The poor people are the ones that hate Maduro the most. They actually have to eat trash and die from appendicitis.

There is literally nothing wrong this this. Until the socialists take over the White House, that is.

Venezuela isn't Libya, for starters isn't particularly tribal and the factions aren't that ideologically diverse. The only thing that really distinguish Maduro faction from Guaido factions is how beholden the first are to foreign actors -China, Cuba, Russia-. There won't be a bursting blood bath but a prolonged and simmering unrest. For the level of savagery you see in Mexico or Colombia you need decades of drug traffic and lawlessness and i'm telling you, Venezuelans aren't there yet. Venezuela is more violent than Mexico and Colombia, and Brazil, and Lybia, and Syria.

Russia does not have the muscle to save Maduro from the US. They can protect him from a coup, but not if that coup is US backed. They already did the most important part, Maduro has all those Igla, S-300s, T-72s and BMPs to shoot out the unarmed opposition, and they can send in more if needed. Venezuela is a worthy investment.

The economic crisis is just one of the reasons for a possible intervention. Its the whole migrant crisis, which is more the result of the political crisis, as it precedes the economic crisis. Thing is, Grenada did not have S-300. If taking out Maduro was a matter of sending in a SEAL Team in a helicopter with some support, then this would be over. In truth, he has an infantry division, two if you count the other one in Caracas, as his bodyguards. This has no bloodless answer that I can see. And I am praying for one.