Definitely makes sense Stuart, didn't know that about having one less guy in the car, that would make a huge difference I would think. Also the PRAs, I know they said the 20th GMRD was in a PRA. Some interesting discoveries, in combing through Russian language websites the last few days, I re-visited a forum for the 27th Guards Motorized Rifle Division in Halle (http://halle55.borda.ru/). Was able to garner some stuff on some of the subordinate units based on the veterans' accounts: -31st Independent Tank Battalion: Had 51 x T-62s until 1982, when they were replaced by 40 x T-80B in 1982. They were 3 companies of 13 each. These were then replaced by T-80BV in 1986, and their T-80Bs were sent to the 39th GMRD. The Division was used as a test division for a concept called "Division 90," and the ITB was disbanded, and the tanks scattered to the MRRs as 10 tank companies. -28th Tank Regiment: Received T-80B in 1983. -68th GMRR: Was BTR equipped, then at some point in the mid 1980s was re-equipped with BMP -243rd GMRR: BTR equipped, has T-62s in 1982. Received T-80B in 1983. -244th GMRR: BMP equipped (had to be moved from Halle to Schlotheim in secret, because T-80s were not supposed to be within 60km of the border) They said the division was the among the first to receive the T-80B (along with 9th TD in 1GTA) due to their assignment to 1GTA until May 1983. They were shifted to 8GCAA as a result of an adoption of a more "defensive" doctrine by the Soviets. They also reported that the 174th GMRR of 57th GMRD received a T-80 bn in 1984. Now the numbers given above are considerably higher than the generally accepted numbers posted in the AFV part of this forum (they give 27 GMRD only 27 T-80 in Jan 1987). I'm more inclined to believe the veterans, why would they lie to each other when discussing these things? The Soviet military in general however was very prone to deception, leading me to think that maybe those generally accepted T-80s numbers aren't entirely accurate (they don't show the 57th GMRD as having any T-80s in 1987 for example). Will continue the search, veterans forums seem to be quite the treasure trove... if you can find them. Thought I would share the interesting notes uncovered so far.