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  1. The free part of the donation is nice. But I am astounded to learn that 1200 M4s are valued at $1.2 million. That's $100 per M4. That's even lower then Chinese made AK-47 prices!
  2. Yes, the delayed fuse makes total sense. I am not sure a 250lb JDAM would do the job. The whole thing looks like a professional demolition company came in and dropped the building.
  3. What the hell is the IDF dropping over there? They are leveling entire buildings with what seems like one or 2 bombs. In particular the media building in Gaza housing Al Jazeera and AP offices. The precision is incredible too. The building is situated in between 2 other buildings and they drop the whole building without touching the neighboring buildings. We saw such precision during Desert Storm, but the JDAMS or PGMs dropped on Iraqi buildings blew the building out, not collapsed it.
  4. The IA Pucara was a good design for its time, but fell victim to operating economics. Newer and more powerful turbo prop engines were being used in a single engine configuration like the Super Tucano, with the result that the ST could carry almost the same payload as a Pucara. Today's COIN aircraft could carry almost the same payload and deploy a wider range of munitions. The Pucara was never going to make it in the modern COIN era. The plane itself is famously tough. There was an engagement in the Falklands war where a RN Harrier jet piloted by Nigel Ward shot up a Pucara who refused to go down. Ward observed at least 20 X 30mm hits he inflicted on the Pucara who kept flying. It finally went down after a protracted engagement. Not sure any jet fighters could have survived so many 20mm hits.
  5. Chinese trying to get German diesel sub tech? LOL.
  6. We used the M151 MUTT in the Singapore Army, surplus from the Vietnam war. We could tow another M151 and even a M151 mounted with a 106mm Recoilless rifle.
  7. Ok, so I did the Cole's notes version and watched the episode of War Stories on Youtube. I also read some of the accounts on the internet, although they were quite dry. I know the timeline and the actual battle, etc. What I don't get was how close the engagement distances ended up being. In some cases, 500m or less? Like what the hell? Why would elements of the 2nd ACR close to that range? The accounts state that the lead elements of 2nd ACR came up on a ridge and saw the Iraqi tanks in a laager or defensive position. In some case, their T-72s were not even manned. AT night, and in a sand storm, poor visibility, the M1A1's superior optics and night vision picked out the heat signatures of the Iraqi tanks. The T-72s even in hull down and at night were visible to the M1A1 through their thermal optics. SO, why not stand off, and use a superior gun and APFSDS to pick them off from the ridge, or from distance? WHy charge the Iraqis and close with them where they have a chance to use a 125mm APFSDS at close range on a M1A1. Its possible the Iraqis might not even have been able to elevate their main guns to take in the ridge. If the Iraqi tanks had been manned and the crews alert, I can see them taking out a few M1A1s. Is this US armor tactic? The USAF sure as hell don't want to close with an enemy. ANyone who was there? What was the circumstance and reasoning to close in and engage in such a way?
  8. Unfortunately, its not good news. Lost with all hands onboard. DENPASAR, April 25 — A missing Indonesian submarine has been found, broken into at least three parts, at the bottom of the Bali Sea, army and navy officials said today, as the president sent condolences to relatives of the 53 crew. Rescuers also found new objects, including a life vest, that they believe belong to those aboard the 44-year old KRI Nanggala-402, which lost contact on Wednesday as it prepared to conduct a torpedo drill. “Based on the evidence, it can be stated that the KRI Nanggala has sunk and all of its crew have died,” military chief Marshal Hadi Tjahjanto told reporters. Navy chief of staff Yudo Margono said the crew were not to blame for the accident and that the submarine did not experience a blackout, blaming “forces of nature”. “The KRI Nanggala is divided into three parts, the hull of the ship, the stern of the ship, and the main parts are all separated, with the main part found cracked,” he said. “There are scattered parts of the submarine and its interior in the water.” President Joko Widodo earlier confirmed the discovery in the Bali Sea and sent the families of the victims his condolences. “All of us Indonesians express our deep sorrow over this tragedy, especially to the families of the submarine crew.” A sonar scan yesterday detected the submarine at 850 metres, far beyond the Nanggala’s diving range. More than a dozen helicopters and ships are searching the area where contact was lost, with the United States, Australia, Singapore, and Malaysia providing assistance. Navy officials said international help will be crucial in recovering the remains of the vessel. Singapore Senior Minister Teo Chee Hean wrote on social media late on Sunday that a ROV (remotely operated vehicle) sent by the Singapore Navy was able to “recover a few critical items from the seabed at depth of more than 800 metres”. “We hope that this will help the families find some closure and certainty on the fate of their loved ones,” he added. Search teams said yesterday they had found objects including prayer mat fragments near the submarine’s last known location, leading the navy to believe the vessel had cracked. Indonesia police said it would deploy teams to Bali and the Java town of Banyuwangi, which hosts the naval base from where the main search and recovery operations are being conducted, to help identify the victims once the bodies are retrieved. Residents of Banyuwangi joined nationwide calls to accelerate the modernisation of Indonesia’s defence forces. “This can be a learning point for the government to advance its military technology and be careful in how it uses its (existing) technology because its people’s lives are at stake,” said 29-year old resident Hein Ferdy Sentoso. Southeast Asia’s most-populous country has sought to revamp its military capability, yet some equipment is still old and there have been fatal accidents in recent years. Indonesia had five submarines before the latest accident: two German-built Type 209s including Nanggala and three newer South Korean vessels. — Reuters
  9. Indonesian Navy searches for missing submarine with 53 people on board JakartaIndonesia's Navy is searching for a missing submarine with 53 people on board that went missing during a military exercise on Wednesday, Indonesian authorities say. In a statement published Wednesday night, the Indonesian Ministry of Defense said the KRI Nanggala-402, a German-made submarine, lost contact during a torpedo drill in the Bali Strait -- a stretch of water between the islands of Java and Bali that connects to the Indian Ocean and Bali Sea. Members of National Search and Rescue Agency (BASARNAS) prepare for a search mission for Indonesian Navy submarine KRI Nanggala at Benoa harbor in Bali on Wednesday. The submarine asked for permission to dive, or submerge, at 3 a.m. local time (3 p.m. ET) before losing contact, it said. The statement added that an oil spill was seen in aerial surveillance near the dive point, around 7 a.m. local time. The oil spill is "highly suspected" to have come from the vessel, Indonesian Navy spokesman First Adm. Julius Widjojono said. "That oil spill location is the last time we had contact with the submarine," he said. Widjojono said the submarine has the capability to dive up to 500 meters below sea level, but authorities estimate it went 100-200 meters below that depth. He said authorities are holding out hope the crew are safe, but acknowledged the situation could be fatal at that depth. "Let's pray for them so they can survive," he told local media Wednesday. Several countries, including Australia, India and Singapore have offered to provide assistance. Earlier on Wednesday, military chief Hadi Tjahjanto told Reuters that they were "searching in the waters of Bali, 60 miles (96 km) from Bali, (for) 53 people." Indonesia is deploying four warships to search for the submarine, including a Rigel warship equipped with sophisticated sonar that can precisely detect the vessel's position, Widjojono said. That ship is currently en route from Jakarta. Two ships equipped with side-scan sonar, a tool used for mapping the seafloor, began searching the area Wednesday, the Ministry of Defense said. The International Submarine Escape and Rescue Liaison Office (ISMERLO), an organization that facilitates an international response for distressed submarines, is also providing assistance, the ministry said. The 1,395-ton KRI Nanggala-402 was built in 1977 by the German shipbuilding company Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW) and joined the ranks of the Indonesian Navy in 1981, according to the Ministry of Defense statement. The submarine underwent a two-year refit in South Korea that was completed in 2012, according to the Indonesian cabinet secretariat's website. Indonesia in the past operated a fleet of 12 submarines purchased from the Soviet Union to patrol the waters of its sprawling archipelago. But now it has a fleet of only five, including two German-built Type 209 submarines and three newer South Korean vessels. Indonesia has been seeking to upgrade its defense capabilities, but some of its equipment still in service is old and there have been deadly accidents in recent years, in particular involving ageing military transport planes.
  10. I read somewhere that alot of the Japanese war production was along the lines of a cottage industry set up. Mom and pop operations making war material and parts out of their homes and what not. They of course have huge factories but not to the extend of the Germans. Perhaps that was why a firebombing campaign against the cities would disrupt war production for the Japanese more then it would for the Germans.
  11. There is some conflicting accounts for this. Some sources said non were captured as all T-72s encountered were destroyed. Another source says Israel sold a battalion of T-72s (30 tanks) to Romania in 1986. These could have been captured tanks from Syrians, captured in 1982. Also, some Israeli companies like NIMDA and ELBIT offer extensive T-72 upgrade and modernization kits. Where would they acquire this expertise, if they had not worked with a number of T-72s before? ANyone know?
  12. Ok, enough of this political discussion. Lets talk Logistics. How does Tanknet organize a mass rescue of the fair and buxom Ukrainian maidens of Kiev?
  13. The presumption the British had after some bad experiences in daylight bombing, was that the night time would provide better protection for their bombers. But then their lost rates were almost as high as the USAAF 8th Air Force which was bombing during the day. The RAF had a 44% death rate, 55,000 killed, 8325 aircraft loss vs 8th Air Force 26,000 killed, 4000 + heavy bombers lost. Its amazing to me that the night did not appear to protect the RAF Bomber Command, and that the Luftwaffe was so successful in shooting bombers down at night with primitive air intercept radar. Many German night fighter pilots must have made double ace, and the flak shooting in the dark could bring so many bombers down is astounding. In the face of these casualties, did no one in Bomber Command figure out that the lost rate meant that they were probably no better off bombing in daylight. If they had co-ordinated daylight bombing rates with the Americans, would they not have been able to stretch the German air defences and collectively reduce their losses? During the large raids, the Americans were attacking one target a day in Germany. If the RAF had concluded the protection of night was mythical and has instead joined the daylight raid campaign, then as an example, a timed raid with the Eight Air Force attacking Berlin and say the RAF attacking Hamburg at the same time would split the German fighter response. Would this not have resulted in a lesser loss rate? Instead of concentrating on just one bomber stream, there would be 2 streams. Both with large aircraft numbers. The German defences would have to split their resources to tackle two streams attacking 2 targets widely separated. In addition, American fighters in general all had longer ranges then RAF fighters, and could have been assigned to escort RAF bombers. And as a side note, why the heck were night fighter versions of the Mosquitoes and Beaufighters not assigned to RAF Bomber escorting? These planes would more then hold their own against the common German nightfighters like the ME 110 and JU 88.
  14. That's what Canadian French sounds like. Its sounds like a German speaking French, with lots of spit and saliva gutterally flying out.
  15. I say this with all seriousness. I am amazed by the amount of information and the quality of discourse on this thread. There are some tanknetters here who really know their stuff. There is enough material here for 2 dissertations. Much like the Sealion thread. Kudos to you guys.
  16. What about Singapore's FH2000? http://www.geocities.ws/lpkor/fh2000.jpg
  17. Maybe the Israelis were trying to send a message to whatever Ayatollah is in charge. The message being, if we can get to this high security target in Iran, we can get to anyone there.
  18. Well, that show will not be as popular as the Playboy Channel show where ex KGB Swallows and Red Sparrows compete to extract information from male contestants.
  19. Yeah, I thought so too. However its possible that in order to stabilize the pickup truck and made it a usable gun platform, they had to increase the weight. Anyone jumping into a flatbed of the a truck will realize it sways like heck. So, they added weight to the truck, and the explosives were the weight.
  20. The reports of this assassination is astounding. Apparently, a Mossad team smuggled into Iran a RWS (by Raphael?), and assembled it on a Nissan Pick up truck and parked the truck on the side of the road. When the nuclear scientist's convoy drove by, the RWS was operated and successive dispatch the scientist. Among some of the information (true or not, I do not know) that came out............ 1) The RWS fired only 13 rounds and was so accurate that the scientist's wife, sitting 10 inches away was not hit, nor was any of his 12 bodyguard. 2) And this accuracy was achieved on a moving vehicle 3) A bomb build into the RWS was triggered after the shots were fired, hence, destroying the evidence that was the RWS 4) The whole contraption weigh 1 ton. The science involved is mind boggling. They need a remote wireless control set up, maybe via satlink to control the RWS. The RWS is so fast, smooth and accurate. Facial recognition software was probably used and incorporated into some kind of sensor suite for the RWS. Or the RWS was controlled by live drone or satellite feeds? They need to secure and mate the RWS into the bed of the pickup truck, and somehow anchor the truck down to create a stable platform to handle the recoil of the RWS. Not even sure what the RWS used. A 0.5 in Browning? Article below: Iranian nuclear scientist killed by one-ton automated gun in Israeli hit: report JERUSALEM -- The Iranian nuclear scientist assassinated near Tehran in November was killed by a one-ton gun smuggled into Iran in pieces by the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad, according to a report by The Jewish Chronicle on Wednesday. Citing intelligence sources, the British weekly said a team of more than 20 agents, including Israeli and Iranian nationals, carried out the ambush on scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh after eight months of surveillance. Reuters was not immediately able to confirm the report, which was published on the website of the London-based newspaper. Iranian media said Fakhrizadeh died in hospital after armed assassins gunned him down in his car. Shortly after his death Iran pointed the finger at Israel, Foreign Minister Javad Zarif writing on Twitter of “serious indications of (an) Israeli role." Israel declined to comment in November and on Wednesday night an Israeli government spokesman responded to the latest report by saying: “We never comment on such matters. There has been no change in our position.” Fakhrizadeh, 59, was long suspected by the West of masterminding a secret nuclear bomb program. He had been described by Western and Israeli intelligence services for years as the mysterious leader of a covert atomic bomb program halted in 2003, which Israel and the United States accuse Tehran of trying to restore. Iran has long denied seeking to weaponise nuclear energy. According to the Jewish Chronicle’s report, Iran has “secretly assessed that it will take six years” before a replacement for him is “fully operational” and that his death had “extended the period of time it would take Iran to achieve a bomb from about three-and-a-half months to two years.” Giving no further details of its sourcing, the world's oldest Jewish newspaper said the Mossad mounted the automated gun on a Nissan pickup and that “the bespoke weapon, operated remotely by agents on the ground as they observed the target, was so heavy because it included a bomb that destroyed the evidence after the killing.” It said the attack was carried out “by Israel alone, without American involvement” but that U.S. officials were given some form of notice beforehand.
  21. Wow, it must have been crazy over Germany, especially Berlin, during WW2. They were firing so much AAA at Allied bombers, and all of that must come back down.
  22. If road basing is so important, I am guessing you can eliminate the Super Hornet and the Typhoon from the competition. I am not sure how the Gripen is in that regard. U might as well go with Russian fighters for the rough field capability.
  23. Especially with the US starting to deploy Legion IRST pods on legacy fighters. At least for the air to air role, as more aircraft get equipped with IRST type sensors, either build in from the design stage or hung on as a pod, how can a stealth fighter utilize its advantage? Even a legacy 30 year old F-15C hanging a Legion pod will be able to detect any stealth Russian fighters at a long enough range to engage with AMRAAMs. It works both ways too, so F-22s and F-35s will be similarly vulnerable to Russian IRST systems. If you can't use your stealth to convincing advantage in air to air, that just leaves the strike role. But that is like taking away half the missions for a stealth fighter.
  24. You made no mention of the F-16. Was this not considered at all? I think it would be cheaper to operate as a single engine fighter vs a twin engine Typhoon. The US is selling Taiwan 66 F-16 for $8 billion. And these are Block 70s. The per unit price I have read is $30 million for a Block 70. I would think this fits within the tight budget you mention?
  25. Any consideration being given to a Russian fighter like a SU-35 or a Mig 35? I am sure Putin can set up a friendship price for a neighbouring country. |Finland would need to control things major overhauling of the engines locally.
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